@wintgenstein Satanism, like most religion, sounds great but the aesthetic attracts real shit bags

@zoe no joke this guy wants to quit his local church because some Satanists there are pro Antifa and he thinks Antifa is a terrorist organization

@Red yeah no
there are some people who like satan because to them god represents The Old Ways

and then there are the people who think white supremacy is punk

@zoe god that's so true

@webweaver this q comes up a lot when i talk about this guy and he's a tst.

@Red yeah, i'm pretty sure i swapped those in my head... idk i can't be arsed to remember.

@webweaver afaik from what I've heard it seems like an asatru/odinism situation where one sect calls the others the bad ones

@webweaver @Red church of Satan is the occultist one by lavey satanic temple is the new atheists cosplaying as religious to sue under freedom of religion laws

@hope @webweaver yeah see that tst description sounds exactly like him.

@hope @Red yes, thank you.

@hope ofc this guy is a libertarian too lol

@Red as a rule of thumb I avoid the types because it's so deeply defined by people who aestheticize ayn rand, or vague child sexual assault and grooming, or Nazism, they (Lavey, boyd rice, etc) basically were the face of it for like half a century. When people venerate vices and indulgence without checking themselves or their community it just fosters abusive unsafe environments. And the internet already had too many pedo and "hedonistic" (red flag ) spaces

@Red that said, there's quite a lot of satanic temple people who are cool who are aware of these problems with the history of Satanism, the satanic church, csa, and those people are valid and cool. Nut I still question anything that worships the ultimate evil of western religion. But I get it. I used to be a luciferian myself and for me it was about freedom and spiritual individuality and release from immortal tyranny, and also a reclamation of being called sinful

@Red like, western Christian institutions call q people like me embodiments of evil, sometimes I just say yeah bitch I'm a demon fuck you buddy

@alraune see that last bit i totally get. That's why i don't just write off Satanism, because growing up in a Christian household/community i can 100% see how this would be reliving and freeing. It just seems like a lot of the sins i see Satanists trying to reclaim are things that maybe are sins for a reason

@Red yeah that's pretty much the crux of the issue

@Red Anybody who willingly calls themself a Satanist is probably not the kind of person you wanna fuck around with tbh

And I say that with a flag hanging in my room which I got from a TST event and a copy of The Satanic Bible in my closet =P